![]() But it’s way too easy as-is for SpamSieve to start effectively deleting emails. Or maybe you come up with something better. Please visit for instructions on how to install and reactivate the program when you have a moment.” ![]() Spam Sieve has been turned off to ensure all email is not moved to the spam folder. Meaning if you have full control of the dialog, perhaps it should say something like “OS X 10.14 data protection settings have disabled SpamSieve. I would avoid the disruptive outcome at all costs. That is exactly what happened - I was in the middle of working and SpamSieve installed and popped up some dialog and I skimmed it for 2 seconds and dismissed it, thinking I would deal with it later, because it was unclear that taking no action would effectively break all my email, and do so in a way that was hard to figure out later (keep in mind I get my email on multiple devices, and only have SpamSieve operating on desktop). And it can’t disable the Mail rule unless you give it Automation access to control Mail.) Are you saying that you did see the dialog but decided not to do what it said because it didn’t seem that important?ĭo you think it would be useful to have SpamSieve disable (uncheck) the rule in Mail if it detects that it doesn’t have access? Or would that just further confuse things? (Unfortunately, SpamSieve can’t tell whether its plug-in is installed if it doesn’t have Full Disk Access. I’m curious about exactly what happened here. I will send out another e-mail right before Mojave is released, but unfortunately some customers have said they don’t want to receive e-mails. It’s also mentioned at the top of the notes when doing an automatic software update. So far, I have tried to communicate this issue in an e-mail to SpamSieve customers, on the blog, and at the top of the technical support page. ![]() I’m still trying to find a workaround to prevent this, but the current design is so far the least bad way that I’ve found to handle the unfortunate changes to Mail in macOS 10.14. When SpamSieve is installed, it restricts the action of the rule so that it only applies to spam messages. It was your Mail rule that was moving the messages. To be clear, SpamSieve was not running and so it wasn’t doing anything. I certainly want to make the Mojave update as smooth as possible for people. If it took me days to figure this out, it will be worse for other people. I’m a pretty tech-y person - ex-programmer, ex-UI designer, in software product management for a long time. You might also consider sending an email with a big “ATTN” flag or similar in the subject. IMO it should certainly say that your email will all move to the spam folder appear to be deleted if the permissions are not updated. The dialog box is very understated considering the problems that are caused by SpamSieve not getting the permissions from the OS. Hopefully this will be a different experience with the release of 10.14 and whatever release of SpamSieve is supposed to go with it, but if not, I think you need to STRONGLY consider changing the experience to avoid problems. ![]() ![]() If it doesn’t have the permission it moves ALL mail to the Spam folder (!!!).in 10.14, SpamSieve requires special permission from the OS to run with Mail.I didn’t receive any communication and had no awareness of how 10.14 or SpamSieve might affect my mail.I rarely think about SpamSieve, and certainly not as a potential email deleter.It was not easy to figure out what was happening for the following reasons: I was also running the Mac OS 10.14 public beta, but we were close to golden master at this point, so I didn’t think that was the issue. After 5 days or so, we realized that SpamSieve was deleting all the messages as they came in and moving them to the Spam folder on my local machine. I opened a ticket with my mail provider (FastMail), and ended up moving my DNS management from FastMail back to my hosting company over a several day effort to fix the issue. Since Sat I was operating under the mistaken assumption that my email had stopped working. ![]()
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